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--- arcade:joystick_mechs [2023/12/24 18:22] – [Sanwa] NFG
+++ arcade:joystick_mechs [2024/01/02 14:39] – [Hori] NFG
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 ===== Sanwa =====
-Sanwa uses two mount patterns: either a simple 65mm two-screw attachment, or a square pattern that's much smaller than Seimitsu's, and it's rotated 45 degrees.  Instead of having one screw on each diagonal, they're on the vertical and horizontal axes.  The [[arcade:joystick_mechs#hori|Hori Hayabusa]] uses the same 4-way mount.
+Sanwa's JLF & JLX series' use two mount patterns: either a simple 65mm two-screw attachment, or a square pattern that's much smaller than Seimitsu's, and it's rotated 45 degrees.  Instead of having one screw on each diagonal, they're on the cardinal points.  The [[arcade:joystick_mechs#hori|Hori Hayabusa]] uses the same 4-way mount, but not the 65mm mount.
-The two 65mm holes are not threaded, and typically use a nut & bolt attachment.  The 4 central holes are threaded and use screws.
+The two 65mm holes are not threaded, and typically use a nut & bolt attachment.  The 4 central holes are threaded and use counter-sunk screws.
 Sanwa sticks are mounted deeper into the panel compared to Seimitsu sticks.  The top of a Seimitsu mech is ~3mm below the panel top, the Sanwa sticks are 12-16mm below the top of the panel.
+Sanwa sticks use a raised central circle around the pivot, to allow for the pivot to rise vertically above the nominal surface of the stick.  It's critical to allow for this when mounting it, or the stick will not work properly.
 ===== Hori =====
-Hori's made many mechs throughout their history.  Only one was designed and sold for arcade use: the Hayabusa ( 隼 ).  It uses a standard Sanwa mount, but uses a much larger base which may not directly fit a mount made for Sanwa's smaller base.  For example, the SNK Super 29 Candy cab's Sanwa plates, or Sanwa's JLF-P-1S.
+Hori's made many mechs throughout their history.  Only one was designed and sold for different uses: the Hayabusa ( 隼 ).  It uses a standard Sanwa mount, both the four central holes and the outer 65mm mounts.  It does use a much larger base that surrounds the microswitches, which may not directly fit a mount made for Sanwa's smaller base.  For example, the SNK Super 29 Candy cab's Sanwa plates, or Sanwa's JLF-P-1S.
 {{:arcade:hayabusa-mech-schematic.png?400|}}{{:arcade:hori-hayabusa-mech.jpg?400 | Hori Hayabusa Joystick Mechanism}}
-The Hayabusa shown above includes the mounting plate.  It is 36mm from top of plate to bottom of shaft, 78.5mm shaft length.
+The Hayabusa shown above includes the mounting plate.  It is 36mm from top of plate to bottom of shaft, 78.5mm shaft length.  Standard Sanwa holes are underneath.
+[[Hori Hayabusa|Hori Hayabusa Info Page]]
 ===== ASCII =====
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 === CX4J ===
-ASCII were first to market with an optical mechanism, it is branded ASCII (and OMRON) with a part number C4XJ.
+ASCII were first to market with an optical mechanism, it is branded ASCII (and OMRON) with a part number C4XJ.  It was used in several Playstation and Dreamcast sticks, like the [[controls:asciistickpro|ASCII Stick Pro]].
 It was possibly developed with Sanwa, who later released a nearly identical unit called the **JLHS-8 FLASH 1**.  It uses two groups of soldered-on wires, 4-wires for the directional outputs, and two wires for Vcc and Ground, to power the LEDs.