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 SNK's home consoles used Seimitsu mechs (or clones of them) with a 40mm pattern.  Shown below is a mech from a NeoGeo AES joystick (the original and CD sticks used the same mechs).  On the right, the same mechanism mounted to Seimitsu's 40mm plate included with the SELS-70X.
-These same mechs (or clones of them) were also used in sticks from Sigma and (IIRC) ASCII.
+These same mechs (or clones of them) were also used in sticks from Sigma (The Σ-2200 definitely used a Seimitsu mech) and (IIRC) ASCII.
 {{:arcade:snk-stick.jpg?200|SNK's NeoGeo AES Stick Mech}}{{:arcade:snk-seimitsu-40mm.jpg?400|}}
 ===== Sanwa =====
-Sanwa's JLF & JLX series' use two mount patterns: either a simple 65mm two-screw attachment, or a square pattern that's much smaller than Seimitsu's, and it's rotated 45 degrees.  Instead of having one screw on each diagonal, they're on the cardinal points.  The [[arcade:joystick_mechs#hori|Hori Hayabusa]] uses the same 4-way mount, but not the 65mm mount.
+Sanwa's JLF & JLX series' use two mount patterns: either a simple 65mm two-screw attachment, or a square pattern that's much smaller than Seimitsu's, and it's rotated 45 degrees.  Instead of having one screw on each diagonal, they're on the cardinal points.
-The two 65mm holes are not threaded, and typically use a nut & bolt attachment.  The 4 central holes are threaded and use counter-sunk screws.
+{{ :arcade:sns_mounting_patterns.png?400 |Sanwa & Seimitsu Mounting Patterns}}
-Sanwa sticks are mounted deeper into the panel compared to Seimitsu sticks.  The top of a Seimitsu mech is ~3mm below the panel top, the Sanwa sticks are 12-16mm below the top of the panel.
+The two 65mm holes in both the JLX and JLF are not threaded, and typically use a nut & bolt attachment.
+The JLF 4-hole mounts are plastic and use self-tapping counter-sink screws to fix the mech to the plate. The JLX sticks however use threaded metal inserts, and so must use different screws than the JLF mechs.
+Sanwa sticks are mounted deeper into the panel compared to Seimitsu sticks.  The top of a Seimitsu mech is ~3mm below the panel top, the Sanwa sticks are ≥6mm below the top of the panel.
 Sanwa sticks use a raised central circle around the pivot, to allow for the pivot to rise vertically above the nominal surface of the stick.  It's critical to allow for this when mounting it, or the stick will not work properly.
 ===== Hori =====
-Hori's made many mechs throughout their history.  Only one was designed and sold for arcade use: the Hayabusa ( 隼 ).  It uses a standard Sanwa mount, but uses a much larger base which may not directly fit a mount made for Sanwa's smaller base.  For example, the SNK Super 29 Candy cab's Sanwa plates, or Sanwa's JLF-P-1S.
+Hori's made many mechs throughout their history.  Only one was designed and sold for different uses: the Hayabusa ( 隼 ).  It uses a standard Sanwa mount, both the four central holes and the outer 65mm mounts.  It does use a much larger base that surrounds the microswitches, which may not directly fit a mount made for Sanwa's smaller base.  For example, the SNK Super 29 Candy cab's Sanwa plates, or Sanwa's JLF-P-1S.
 {{:arcade:hayabusa-mech-schematic.png?400|}}{{:arcade:hori-hayabusa-mech.jpg?400 | Hori Hayabusa Joystick Mechanism}}
-The Hayabusa shown above includes the mounting plate.  It is 36mm from top of plate to bottom of shaft, 78.5mm shaft length.
+The Hayabusa shown above includes the mounting plate.  It is 36mm from top of plate to bottom of shaft, 78.5mm shaft length.  Standard Sanwa holes are underneath.
+[[Hori Hayabusa|Hori Hayabusa Info Page]]
 ===== ASCII =====