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--- arcade:joystick_mechs [2024/01/06 08:49] – [Sanwa] NFG
+++ arcade:joystick_mechs [2024/05/03 15:17] – NFG
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 ===== Joystick Mechanisms =====
 Just a fun-filled list of joystick mounts for easy fact finding.
+===== Pinouts =====
+Most of the joysticks listed below use either spade connectors (AT-187 Japan size) or a 5-pin JST NH-series connector.  The 5-pin connector pinout is a bit complicated, because the function of the pins will vary depending on the stick's orientation on the panel.  The only consistent pin is ground, and even that's opposite for Seimitsu and Sanwa, and in rare instances (Namco's Cyber Lead cab, and the Seimitsu LS-33) even that's not reliable.
+But you can't hurt anything by wiring these up wrong, so if you're not sure, go ahead and experiment.
+The connector used for Sanwa and Seimitsu sticks is a **JST NH-series** 5-pin.  The pinout for the LS-33 and the normal Seimitsu/Sanwa mechs are:
+{{:arcade:jst-nh-5.png  |JST NH-series 5-pin connector  }}
+^  Pin  ^  LS-33  ^  Seimitsu  ^  Sanwa  ^
+|  1  | Down | **GND**  | Up (1 CCW)  |
+|  2  | Right | Left (1 CCW)  | Down (1 CW)  |
+|  3  | **GND** | Right (2 CW)  | Right (2 CW)  |
+|  4  | Up | Down (1 CW)  | Left  |
+|  5  | Left | Up (2 CCW)  | **GND**  |
+As a result, I can't claim this is totally accurate, though I believe it is.  There's a decent chance the Sanwa and Seimitsu pinouts are in reverse order, but since the connector can simply be flipped, it hardly matters.
+The Namco pinout is correct, based on a connector on the RIGHT side, if you're looking from the top of the control panel.  If you're looking at it from below, it'll be on the left side (P1 stick connector towards center of panel, P2 towards edge).
+(Image shamelessly yanked from JST's documentation)
+|   ^  Part No.  ^
+^  Housing | H5P-SHF-AA  |
+^  Contact (28-22 AWG) | SHF-001T-0.8BS  |
+^  Contact (30-28 AWG) | SHF-002T-0.8BS  |
 ===== Seimitsu =====
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   * LS-56
   * LS-55
+  * LS-33
 ==== Seimitsu 50mm Mechs ====
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 ===== Sanwa =====
-Sanwa's JLF & JLX series' use two mount patterns: either a simple 65mm two-screw attachment, or a square pattern that's much smaller than Seimitsu's, and it's rotated 45 degrees.  Instead of having one screw on each diagonal, they're on the cardinal points.  The [[arcade:joystick_mechs#hori|Hori Hayabusa]] uses the same 4-way mount, but not the 65mm mount.
+Sanwa's JLF & JLX series' use two mount patterns: either a simple 65mm two-screw attachment, or a square pattern that's much smaller than Seimitsu's, and it's rotated 45 degrees.  Instead of having one screw on each diagonal, they're on the cardinal points.
 {{ :arcade:sns_mounting_patterns.png?400 |Sanwa & Seimitsu Mounting Patterns}}
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 This mech is compatible with Sanwa JLF mounts and accessories.  The Sanwa device seems to use their standard 5-wire connector for UDLR, plus the two wires for Vcc and Ground (confirm?)
+===== Nintendo =====
+Back in the 80s, with Donkey Kong and Popeye, the Vs cabinets, and even R-Type (which Nintendo distributed in North America) Nintendo used an all-metal joystick that was small, clicky, had an incredibly short throw, and a very short shaft.  I love the thing to pieces, but it's difficult to use in a modern cab due to its very shallow mounting depth.