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--- arcade:joystick_mechs [2024/05/03 15:17] – NFG
+++ arcade:joystick_mechs [2024/05/03 15:25] (current) – NFG
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 Most of the joysticks listed below use either spade connectors (AT-187 Japan size) or a 5-pin JST NH-series connector.  The 5-pin connector pinout is a bit complicated, because the function of the pins will vary depending on the stick's orientation on the panel.  The only consistent pin is ground, and even that's opposite for Seimitsu and Sanwa, and in rare instances (Namco's Cyber Lead cab, and the Seimitsu LS-33) even that's not reliable.
-But you can't hurt anything by wiring these up wrong, so if you're not sure, go ahead and experiment.
+I've attempted to put together a guide to wrapping your head around [[Joystick Wiring]].
-The connector used for Sanwa and Seimitsu sticks is a **JST NH-series** 5-pin.  The pinout for the LS-33 and the normal Seimitsu/Sanwa mechs are:
+===== Seimitsu =====
+Seimitsu sticks to two mounting patterns, for the most part.  Either a 50mm square, or 40mm spacing.
-{{:arcade:jst-nh-5.png  |JST NH-series 5-pin connector  }}
+Wiring is done with spade connectors (called fast-on connectors in Japan) or a 5-pin connector.  If both are available, the **5-pin versions** are denoted by a **-01 suffix** on the model number.  For example, LS-32 or LS-32-01.
-^  Pin  ^  LS-33  ^  Seimitsu  ^  Sanwa  ^
-|  1  | Down | **GND**  | Up (1 CCW)  |
-|  2  | Right | Left (1 CCW)  | Down (1 CW)  |
-|  3  | **GND** | Right (2 CW)  | Right (2 CW)  |
-|  4  | Up | Down (1 CW)  | Left  |
-|  5  | Left | Up (2 CCW)  | **GND**  |
-As a result, I can't claim this is totally accurate, though I believe it is.  There's a decent chance the Sanwa and Seimitsu pinouts are in reverse order, but since the connector can simply be flipped, it hardly matters.
-The Namco pinout is correct, based on a connector on the RIGHT side, if you're looking from the top of the control panel.  If you're looking at it from below, it'll be on the left side (P1 stick connector towards center of panel, P2 towards edge).
-(Image shamelessly yanked from JST's documentation)
-|   ^  Part No.  ^
-^  Housing | H5P-SHF-AA  |
-^  Contact (28-22 AWG) | SHF-001T-0.8BS  |
-^  Contact (30-28 AWG) | SHF-002T-0.8BS  |
-===== Seimitsu =====
-Seimitsu sticks to two mounting patterns, for the most part.  Either a 50mm square, or 40mm.
-They're sometimes sold with a choice of adaptor plate, sometimes there's no choice.  Sometimes, for special editions (or their NOBI stick) the adaptor plate has a sticker on it that needs to be removed if the adaptor plate doesn't fit your intended panel.
+They're sometimes sold with a choice of **adaptor plate**, sometimes there's no choice.  Sometimes, for special editions (or their NOBI stick) the adaptor plate has a fancy sticker on it that needs to be removed before the adaptor plate can be swapped for a more suitable option.
 Generally speaking all their adaptor plates are compatible with the stick mechs, so if you have a 40mm stick, any of their **P=40** plates will work.
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 SNK's home consoles used Seimitsu mechs (or clones of them) with a 40mm pattern.  Shown below is a mech from a NeoGeo AES joystick (the original and CD sticks used the same mechs).  On the right, the same mechanism mounted to Seimitsu's 40mm plate included with the SELS-70X.
-These same mechs (or clones of them) were also used in sticks from Sigma (The Σ-2200 definitely used a Seimitsu mech) and (IIRC) ASCII.
+These same mechs (or clones of them) were also used in sticks from Sigma (The Σ-2200 definitely used a Seimitsu mech) and very early ASCII models.
 {{:arcade:snk-stick.jpg?200|SNK's NeoGeo AES Stick Mech}}{{:arcade:snk-seimitsu-40mm.jpg?400|}}